Derek Carr, Alvin Kamara miss practice for Saints

The Saints haven't officially ruled quarterback Derek Carr or running back Alvin Kamara out for Monday night's game yet, but it looks like things are moving in that direction.

Carr and Kamara missed practice for the second straight day. Carr remains sidelined by the left hand injury he suffered in the team's Week 14 win over the Giants and Kamara has a groin injury that interim head coach Darren Rizzi said may bring an end to his season.

Rookie Spencer Rattler will start if Carr can't go and Kendre Miller would be in line for more work at running back.

Wide receivers Bub Means (ankle) and Marquez Valdes-Scantling (chest, illness) made it four offensive players out of practice. Defensive end Chase Young (illness) has also been out both days this week.

Tight end Juwan Johnson (foot) and wide receiver Chris Olave (head) were limited participants. Olave returned to practice this week and would need to be activated from injured reserve in order to play on Monday.