Does Tom Thibodeau really run his players into the ground? The data says ... not exactly
The Knicks coach has long been accused of overworking his starters – a rep that resurfaced when Mikal Bridges spoke out. But a closer look at the data complicates that narrative
Tom Thibodeau just became the fourth-winningest coach in New York Knicks history, passing Pat Riley on Saturday as his team notched their 49th win of the season. But as has often been the case with Thibodeau’s coaching milestones, the moment wasn’t met with pure celebration. Instead, familiar questions around a controversial overtone of his NBA coaching career loomed – namely, Thibs Minutes Syndrome.
Thibodeau has long carried a reputation for running his starters into the ground, a narrative built on his unwavering reliance on his first unit and reluctance to tap into his bench. This year, Knicks starters lead the NBA in total minutes played by more than 500 minutes. And the concern isn’t new: last year, as New York’s best chance to make the NBA finals in decades unraveled amid a cascade of injuries, criticism of Thibodeau’s substitution patterns resurfaced with a vengeance.
Recently, the conversation was reignited when one of Thibodeau’s stars, small forward Mikal Bridges – one of the league’s most durable players – was uncharacteristically candid on the subject in an interview with the New York Post. “Sometimes it’s not fun on the body,” he told Stefan Bondy in March. “I think [Thibodeau] just gets in his ways and gets locked in. He just wants to keep the [starting player] out there.” Bridges followed that with a pointed call to give the bench more run: “We’ve got a lot of good guys on this team that can take away minutes. Which helps the defense, helps the offense, helps tired bodies being out there and giving up all these points. It helps just keeping fresh bodies out there.”
Thibodeau, for his part, has long dismissed the discourse. “I think sometimes people get caught up in the wrong stuff,” he said during a 2018 radio appearance in Minneapolis. “The most important thing is the winning.”
That philosophy has followed him for years – and so has the criticism. His reputation as a career-shortener is now accepted as near-gospel, a perception rooted in part in Derrick Rose’s devastating knee injury under Thibodeau’s watch in Chicago. But that perception, renewed by Bridges’ comments, prompted a deeper question: is there actual, empirical evidence that Thibodeau’s players are more prone to injury?
The short answer? Not really.
NBA injury data is, by nature, frustratingly opaque – injuries are often categorized alongside “rest” or “illness”, making it difficult to isolate meaningful trends. That’s why, in trying to answer the question of whether Thibodeau’s players are actually more prone to injury, we had to go deeper. That led us to Jeff Stotts of InStreetClothes – a longtime independent researcher who’s spent over a decade meticulously building his own proprietary injury database. The data isn’t public, and to our knowledge, it’s never been shared in this form before. Stotts was able to extract and isolate the specific data we needed, and after a month of obsessive digging, what we found was – while perhaps anticlimactic – illuminating: there’s no clear or consistent pattern showing Thibodeau-coached players are more likely to get hurt than anyone else.
Injury spikes during his Bulls tenure can largely be attributed to Rose and a lengthy absence from Richard Hamilton. But aside from those exceptions, there’s no continuous or notable trend. While it’s fair to wonder whether heavy minutes might have subtle or long-term effects – and while Thibodeau’s approach may still be out of step with evolving sports science – the data doesn’t support a definitive link between his coaching style and injury risk.
Still, the process of looking into Thibodeau’s record revealed a broader, perhaps more unsettling trend: injuries have been rising across the NBA for more than a decade, regardless of coaching style, playing time or load management.
CJ McCollum, NBPA president and guard for the injury-depleted Pelicans, sees it firsthand. He talked to the Guardian last week in Los Angeles about the somewhat alarming trend and whether he had any ideas as to what could be causing it. “I think guys are playing a lot more basketball before they get to the NBA: grassroots, high school, college,” he said. “Just a lot of basketball being played. So at 22, 24, their bodies have been through a little more than [players] in previous years.”
It’s a hypothesis others share. In a 2019 feature for ESPN, Baxter Holmes dove into the theory of how early single-sport specialization and the year-round youth hoops circuit have pushed young players’ bodies to the brink before they even reach the league. “These kids are ticking time bombs,” one expert said in the piece.
McCollum also pointed to changes in team routines. “Earlier in my career, we practiced a lot more. Training camp was longer, there were more preseason games,” he said. “Now, with efforts to reduce back-to-backs, we have more single-off-day breaks and fewer practices. Guys are coming in in shape because they’re playing year-round, but there’s not as much ramp-up. Sometimes it’s too much information. Paralysis by analysis.”
There’s also, of course, the unpredictable: luck. “Sometimes injuries just happen,” McCollum said. “You can do everything right and still get hurt.”
His head coach, Willie Green, echoed that uncertainty. “I do not have a good guess on what the reason is,” Green said. “But I think the best thing we can do is have depth – a deep roster to withstand injuries. That’s what we’ve done in the past. This year, we just didn’t have enough guys available to fill in when our main players went down.”
And that’s where the Thibodeau debate still has legs. Even if his players aren’t getting hurt more than others, the broader trend of rising injuries – especially among starters logging heavy minutes – suggests every team may need to embrace depth more proactively. High-end talent isn’t going to become less important in the NBA landscape any time soon, but Green is likely onto something: depth may just be the way of the future for teams looking to weather an increasingly inevitable injury storm.